陈牧：今北平未下，寡人欲屠之以威齐国，可乎？先生以为如何？</p>
萧凡：臣以为不可，燕降三日，吏人从服，孩儿老母，口以万数，一旦放兵纵火，闻之可为酸鼻，大王以仁义定天下，何忍行此？仰视天，俯视地，不愧于心哉？良失吊民伐罪之义也，窃为大王所不取也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣。</p>
chenu：today，peipghasnotbeennered，iwanttosughterthecitytodeterthestateofqi，whatdoessirthk？</p>
xiaofan:ianotfavorofdog，officialsandcivilianshavesurrendered，oncethecityissetonfire，itisverycruel，youtaketheworldwithbenevolenceandrighteoness，howcanyoubearit，thisisnohatarighteokgshoulddo，idon‘trendyoudothat。</p>
chenu:sirisright，iwaswrong</p>
陈牧：今世乱纷扰，茂才良莠不齐，寡人欲废科举，取士于氏族，可乎？先生以为如何？</p>
萧凡：臣以为不可，古者，德义可尊，无择负贩，苟非其人，何取世族，名公子孙，布衣之伍，本无华素之隔，有晋以来，其流稍改，草泽奇士，犹显清途，降及季年，专限阀阅，自是三公之子，傲九棘之家，黄散之孙，蔑令长之室，转相骄矜，互争铢两，唯论门户，不问贤能，至于末年天下大乱，非必不由此也，取士以德，以才，以量，何分世家寒门，但以阀阅取士，太祖高皇帝何犹而起也？</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣。</p>
chenu：nowtheworldischaotic，andthetalentisuneven，iwanttoabolishtheexaationsysteandselecttalentsfroaongthenobility，sirwhatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan:idon‘tthk，ancienttis，talentswereselected，notlookgatthelddoorandthenobility，aslongastherewasvirtueandtalent，theywereed，ter，theybegantoselecttalentsfroaongthenobility，eveniftheywerepetent，thisledtothearroganceandrudenesfthenobles，theend，theworldwaschaos，it‘spossiblethatthisisthecae，theselectionoftalentsdependnvirtueandabilityandd，whydividethelddoorandthenobility，ifyoureallydothis，thenhowdidtheoldeperorstarthisfaily？</p>
chenu:sirisright，iwaswrong</p>
陈牧：今迁都已久，寡人欲起太华殿，以固朝廷，可乎？先生以为如何？</p>
萧凡：臣以为，太祖始建都邑，其所营立，必因农隙，况建国已久，永安前殿足以朝会，西堂、温室足以宴息，紫楼足以临望，纵有修广，亦宜驯致，不可仓促，今计所当役凡二万人，老弱供饷，又当倍之，期半年可毕，一夫不耕，或受之饥，况四万人之劳费，可胜道乎！愿大王所宜留心也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：ithasbeenalongtiscethecapitalwasoved，iwanttobuildapacetonlidatethegovernnt，sirwhatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan:ithk，whenfargwaspleted，theoldeperorwouldbuildthecapital，oreover，theuntryhasbeenestablishedforalongti，andthefrastructurehasbeenpleted，etgs，rest，andsightseegcanbecateredfor，evenifyouwantnanexpansion，youcan‘tdoittooickly，thisprojectreiresorethan20，000people，andthefancialexpenditureisevengreater，thenstructionperiodisatleasthalfayear，ifagriculturalproductionisdeyedasaresult，anypeoplewillendurehunr，iwantyoutothkcarefully。</p>
chenu:sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyourteachgs。</p>
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