chenu：recently，anyistershavevisitedtheprce，howshouldihandlethis？sirtaught。</p>
xiaofan：ithk，theysiplywenttovisittheprce，it‘snotaboutforgapoliticalparty，butetietteishierarchical，onlybyobeygiilltherebenonfionbeeenthekgandtheisters，althoughthecrownprcewasnoble，hewasalaurtierofthekg，ontheterlstice，theistersvisitedthecrownprceandpresentedgifts，itdoesnotnfortoetietteandrules，yohouldorderthattheybeforbiddentodo，atthesati，ihopeyouwillnotlistentoruorsrotectyourfeelgs，onlythenwilltheuntrybestable。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyou。</p>
陈牧：今少傅卢坦，教导世子不力，寡人欲黜之，可乎？先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，卢坦以天挺良才，元勋佐命，为众所疾，以至废弃；愿大王录其大功，忘其小过，弘君王之慈，顾天性之义，迁之小县，观其所为：若能迁善，渐更增益；如或不悛，贬削非晚。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：nowtandidnotseriolyteachthecrownprce，therefore，iwanttoreovehi，sirwhatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，tanhadgoodtalentsandgreatrits，otherswerejealoofhitheysnderedhi，evenyou‘regogtoreovehi，iwantyoutoreberhisgreatexploitsandignorehislittleistakes，youaretoshowthebenevolenceofthekgandtotakecareofthewillofthepeople，deotehitountyagistrateandobservehisactions，ifhedoesagoodjob，yougivehiaprootion，otherwise，it‘snottooteforyoutodisisshi。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyou。</p>
陈牧：汉唐士多而府史少，今掾史百倍于前，减则不济，何也？先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，古人委任责成，岁终考其殿最，案不重校，文不繁悉，府史之任，掌要目而已。今之文簿，恒虑覆治，若锻炼不密，则追证百年旧案。故谚云：‘老吏抱案死。’事繁政弊，职此之由也。往者州唯置纲纪，郡置守、丞，县置令而已。其馀具僚则长官自辟，受诏赴任，每州不过数十。今则不然，大小之官，悉由吏部，纤介之迹，皆属考功。省官不如省事，官事不省而望从容，其可得乎！</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：therewereoreistersthancivilservantsthehanandtangdynasties，nowithasahundredtisorecivilservantsthanbefore，ifyoffsareade，thentheworkwillnotgowell，i‘veryworriedaboutthat，sirtaughtwhattodo？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，theancientsassignedtaskstocivilservantsandedresultsasacriterionforevaation，butonlythestoneisprocessed，casesarenotrrectedultipletisandtherulesarenotplicated，thetaskofacivilservantistoandtheoutle，now，civilservantsareafraidofbegscrutized，theyhandlecasesverystrictly，thereanwhygovernntaffairsareplicatedandbyisprobablybecaeofthis，previoly，therewereonlygovernors，ayors，anduntychiefs，andtheyrecruitasallnuberofsubordateofficers，butnowallofficiappotntsaredecidedbythestatedepartnt，andallattersaretobeevaated，itisbettertoreduceofficialsthantoreducegovernntaffairs，itisipossibletosaveyourdwithoutsiplifyggovernntaffairs。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyou。</p>
陈牧：寡人闻，天子之职莫大于礼，何也？先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，天子之职莫大于礼，礼莫大于分，分莫大于名，何谓礼？纲纪是也，何谓分？君臣是也，何谓名？公、侯、卿大夫是也，是故天子统三公，三公率诸侯，诸侯制卿大夫，然后能上下相保，而国家治安者也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：iheard，theeperor‘sgreatestdutywasrooteetiettetheworld，sirwhatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，thefirsttaskofthekgwastoenforcetheliturgy，theostiportantthgtheliturgyistodividestatandhierarchy，withit，orderbeeenkgsandisterscanbeestablished，th，thekgwasabletoandtheprcipalityandhisisters，becaeofthis，thegovernntcanbeorderlyandtheuntrycanbestable。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyou。</p>
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