陈牧：寡人以俭治天下，然奢侈成风，何也？先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，改政移风，必有其本。吴王好剑客，百姓多疮痍；楚王好细腰，宫中多饿死。斯言如戏，有切事实。愿大王罢服官，去不急，省奢侈，百姓从行不从言也，如此，则四海诵德，声薰天地，神明可通也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：igoverntheuntryafrugalway，butthecialoresisextravagant，sirtaughtwhy？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，ifyouwanttochanthissituation，youtdealwithitfrotheurce，thekglikedswordsnanypeoplewerejuredbylearngswords，thekglikessknybeautiesanywonthepacestarvetodeathbecaeofweightloss，althoughthisisaproverb，itisatruethg，ihopeyoucancutdownonoftheuniportantstitutionsandlivefrugally，thepeoplefollowedthedeedsnoords，onlythiswaywilltheworldbespiredbyyouandbeebetter。</p>
chenu:sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyourteachgs。</p>
陈牧：宦官夏桀触犯有司，寡人当如何处之，先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，内侍之罪，莫大于欺罔，是以明君疾之。今夏桀所为，何异指鹿为马，然卒不能罪之，则奸臣安所惩哉！大王不见赵高乎！人主之于臣下，患在不知其奸，苟或知之而复赦之，则不若不知之为愈也。何以言之？彼或为奸而上不之知，犹有所畏；既知而不能讨，彼知其不足畏也，则放纵而无所顾矣！是故知善而不能用，知恶而不能去，人主之深戒也，望大王察之。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣，当为卿付之大理寺，以正典刑。</p>
chenu：theeunuchxiajiebrokethew，whatshouldidoaboutit？sirtaught。</p>
xiaofan：ithk，thegreatestcrioftheattendantsisdeception，thereforethekghatedsuchthgsveryuch，nowwhatxiajiedidwastodescribethehorseasadeer，ifheuldnotbepunished，thenthetraitorswouldnotrelent，zhaogaooftheqstatewaslikethis，thekg‘stroublewasthathedidnotknowwhothetraitorswere，ifyouknowwhothetraitorisbutfivehi，thenitisbetternottoknow，thantiswhy？youdon‘tknowthatheisatraitorandhestillhasfearhisheart，youknowbutyoucan‘tpunishhithenhewon‘tbeafraid，knowthegoodpeople，butyoucan‘tappotthe，knowthewicked，butyoucan‘tpunishthe，thisisaverydeearngfrothekg，ihopeyoudon‘takethesaistake。</p>
chenu:sirisright，iwaswrong，iwilltakehitourt。</p>
陈牧：今有人诽谤吾先君，寡人欲罪之，可乎？先生以为如何？</p>
萧凡：臣以为，凡言诽谤者，谓实无此事而虚加诬之也。至如太祖皇帝，政之美恶，显在晋史，坦如日月，是为直书实事，非虚谤也。夫王者，为善为恶，天下莫不知之，假使所非实是，则固应悛改，傥其不当，亦宜含容，又何罪焉！大王不推原大数，深自为计，徒肆私忌以快其意，自今以后，苟见不可之事，终莫复言者矣。齐桓公亲扬其先君之恶以唱管仲，然后群臣得尽其心，今大王乃欲为太祖远讳实事，岂不与桓公异哉！非王者所为也！</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣。</p>
chenu：nowonesnderedyfatherandiwantedunishhi，sirwhatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，theruorsarethatthereisnosuchthg，butpeoplesnderit，theachieventfthepreviokgsarewrittenthehistorybooks，itisveryclearandtruewithouttheneedforotherstosnder，whetherthekgdoesgoodorbadthgscanbeseenbyeveryonetheworld，ifonepotsthgwrongthenyohouldrrectit，evenifwhattheysayisnotappropriate，yohouldtoleratethesteadofpunishnt，youdon‘tthkabouttheorigofthgs，butonlythkaboutyourownoodandanr，thentherewillbenooorrectyouristakesanyore，thepreviokgofqiallowedothersotouttheistakeftheirancestors，theistersworkedveryhardtohelphigoverntheuntry，yourapproachisnotasgoodasthatofkgqi，thisisnohatakgshoulddo。</p>
chenu:sirisright，iwaswrong。</p>
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